Did Yeshua the Messiah Pre-Exist?

Here is more evidence concerning the fable of the pre-existence of Yeshua the Messiah:

First, we have to acknowledge that the church today cannot agree on the divinity/humanity of Yeshua. Some say that Yeshua is 50% God and 50% man. Yet others say that he is 100% man as well as 100% God. The last one is generally accepted by most. However, from a mathematical standpoint, 200% cannot go into 100%, and YEHOVAH God being the creator of the science of mathematics would not violate His own system of order!

Secondly, if Yeshua pre-existed (other than in relation to YEHOVAH God Who was manifested in him), then Mary, his mother, would have to be too. Yeshua, being born of Mary, had to have her human genetic makeup in his being as well. If Mary did not pre-exist, how then did YEHOVAH go into the future and extract her genetic makeup, disassemble Yeshua and insert Mary's genetic code in him? Therefore, if Yeshua pre-existed, then Mary had to as well -- prior to creation.

If we would only look at YEHOVAH God's character in the Old Testament, we would clearly see its impossibility.

o YEHOVAH cannot lie.
o YEHOVAH cannot sin.
o YEHOVAH does not break laws
o YEHOVAH is pure, holy, righteous, etc.

Now that we have established that, let us ask whether Mary was engaged or married at the time of her "impregnation." If she was married when YEHOVAH "impregnated' her, He would have committed adultery, which is violation of the eighth commandment. Conversely, if she was only engaged/betrothed when YEHOVAH impregnated her, then He would have committed fornication. YEHOVAH God will definitely not commit adultery or fornication. There are more evidences of the NON-"virgin" birth of Yeshua throughout the Old and New Testaments.

YEHOVAH God never does anything to his disciples, prophets, teachers, servants, etc. without first asking them if they would do it; how much more so in the incident of impregnating someone. The New Testament states that Yeshua was "born under the law". This clearly is an indication that Yeshua was NOT conceived through fornication or adultery.

Most of the Churches of God believe that Yeshua the Messiah was not really like us and that he walked a sinless life. The word "sinless" means "without missing the mark." It does not mean that he did not misbehave as a child, or that he did not commit minor infractions. Rather than always justifying and rationalizing our sins and shortcomings with the excuse that Yeshua was able to live and walk as he did because he was THE son of YEHOVAH God, let us strive toward the mark that YEHOVAH God has set before us. Scripture tells us that Zechariah and his wife were BLAMELESS. Yeshua himself told a certain young man that he only lacked ONE thing. Even Paul said that he kept the law FLAWLESSLY. So where do we get the teaching that we cannot break our sinful nature and our old habits, etc? Could it be due to the teaching of the virgin birth and of the divinity of Yeshua the Messiah?

Yeshua is indeed the firstborn from the dead. Indeed he is king and son of YEHOVAH God, but he is not God. Isaiah says that YEHOVAH God the Father will not share his glory with any man. Just because we are filled with the holy spirit does not make us God, but only sons of YEHOVAH God.

We should all study John 17 from the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures. The following is a literal translation taken from this Interlinear New Testament.

John 17:4-5 -- "I you glorified upon the earth, the work having perfected which you have given to me in order that I might do; and now glorify me you, Father, beside to yourself to the glory which I was having before of the of the world to be beside you."

World (2889) = kosmos = Arrangement / decoration

Therefore, the word "world" means "decorated fallen system." The affirmation is found in verse 6b, "you gave me out of the world." If "world" means terra firma, Yeshua would have to take his disciples to another planet!

Also verse 8b states that “they received and truly knew that I came out from beside you.” Notice that Yeshua did not come from the inside of YEHOVAH God (i.e. virgin birth).

Let us now examine the following part of the verse: "with the glory I had before."

The Greek word meanings as taken from the Strong's Concordance are as follows:

With (3844) = Near / from beside / in vicinity / proximity / on account

Glory (1391) = Glory apparent / from 1380 = think

That (3739) = Who / which / what / that

Had (2192) = Hold / possession / ability / contiguity / relation / condition

Before (4253) = Fore / in front / prior to / superior to

With all the Greek word meanings, let us now reread John 17:4-6 in the correct context.

4. You sent me, Yeshua, the anointed. I you glorified on the EARTH, the work finishing which you gave to me that I should do.

5. And now glorify me Father with YOURSELF which I hold (we are the vessels that only hold YEHOVAH God's glory -- just as Yeshua was, so are we) superior to my previous arrangements/decorations (that was his Adamic fallen nature, which YEHOVAH God renewed and anointed with the Christ (anointing).

6. You, I revealed of your character to the men whom you gave to me out of the arrangement and decorations of the fallen system.

The word "world" (1093) in verse 4, literally refers to terra firma.

However, the word "world" in verse 6, means orderly arrangement/decorations, and it refers to the system, be it political or religious. It also refers to the present condition of man and the systems that we are subjected to. To prove this, we only need look at the root word (2865) the word "world" (2889), which means "to tend/carry off."

Again, our problem is that we read and attempt to understand Scripture using the word meanings taken from our English language dictionary. The Bible was not written in English, but was originally penned in Hebrew and Greek. Thus, we have to use the meanings of the words in the Hebrew and Greek languages. This is the only way to truly read and understand the spiritual matters contained in the Bible, which YEHOVAH God is trying to communicate to us, about our fallen spiritual condition and how to overcome it.

Why then, has the teaching of the virgin birth and of the pre-existence of Yeshua the Messiah become the foundational teachings of Christianity and most of the Churches of God -- and why has the belief of such become the litmus test of being a believer? Ephesians 2:8 and Hebrews 6:1-2 say NOTHING of these doctrines. Can you prove from the Old or New Testament that these doctrines are necessary for salvation and eternal life? Isaiah does NOT say "his names shall be called (Yeshua)." Throughout the Old Testament, it is stated that YEHOVAH God alone is salvation and He alone builds the house. YEHOVAH does not need any help from man to accomplish His goals.

Another good example of this is the modern translation of 1 John 4:1-5. I have done a word study in the Interlinear Bible, leaving out the added words and putting in the correct meaning of the remaining words -- and this is what I have come up with:

Beloved, not every spirit believe, but test them, approve and examine these spirits (Isaiah 8:20; Hebrews 10:28-31). Watch their actions and words if of origin of God they came. If God builds the house it looks like Yeshua; from because many imposters, pretenders have left God and have gone into the arrangements and decorations of the religious system to provide for themselves and carry off spoils. (Jeremiah 2:13) What is of God's spirit is that one who covenants with Him (Psalm 25:10-14). God's salvation in the anointed ones exist in mind/soul (Luke 17:20-21). impostors of God have minds unrenewed (Romans 8:7). These are antichrist. The one who covenants not with God by the renewing of their mind are the antichrist which you heard now and is coming. For his servants are decorated and arranged which is their mark and image and number impressed on their minds (denominational markings by way of action and words).

The summary of 1 John 4:1-5 is that the holy spirit is saying, if I am in your spirit, you will look and act like me. However, if you are adorned with the mark of the religious system, you will act like the system/denomination to which you belong. These verses have nothing to do with the Catholic teaching of the "Queen" Mary and her sexual relations with YEHOVAH God, which is rank heresy and comes from pagan mythology.

The Bible teaches that there is ONE God (Deuteronomy 6:4); monotheism, NOT polytheism as the Catholic Church believes and teaches:

(1) God the Father who is angry and is full of laws,

(2) God the Holy Spirit who speaks for and obeys the "third" God,

(3) Jesus, who is non-confrontational, non-judgmental, and who soothes and pacifies the angry Father God, thereby allowing his followers to be judged by a totally different standard than the saints of the Old Testament.

They further teach of a fourth "god" -- Satan, who has power equal to or greater than God, which they fear more than the first God.